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Alacrity The Tired RDI Staff Karma: 291/33 6348 Posts
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chili sauce - a cooking inquiry
I realize this has nothing to do with gaming or dice or D&D. So be it! Call me a rebel!
Pardon this strange line of inquiry, but I have a question for you and I want to poll as many people as I can. The question is:
What do you think a chili sauce is?
This started because I am looking at making chili sauce. To me, a chili sauce is a tomato based sauce that is somewhere between ketchup and chutney. Thicker and chunky than ketchup but not the spiciness of a chutney - Very similar to a relish. However in perusing periodicals in my quest for a recipe, I have found that most chili sauces do not have chilies in them. Usually they are a combination of tomatoes, onions, green peppers and red peppers, but not chilies. Yes, peppers are a member of the chili family but a distant cousin at best. This has lead me to wonder about the history of chili sauce, and how it came to be? Was it an India based chutney that was tamed down by English settlers? Or a Mexican sauce that lost its potency as it migrated northward? To the computer and Google I went but came up with little useful information. What can I say, I'm not Alton Brown. But I wonder if what I think a chili sauce is might not be what others do.
So readers. when I say Chili sauce - what do you envision? One step away from ketchup or something a bit more fiery?
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 12:55:55.
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Grugg Gregg RDI Staff Karma: 357/190 6192 Posts
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asdf
In my mind it has to be spicy. Anything less is simply ketchup.
That said I have no idea how you make it, as whatever I cook tends to end up as ash.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 13:41:58.
Edited on 2010-07-13 at 14:00:21 by Grugg
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Odyson PUN-dit Karma: 158/25 6327 Posts
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Yummmmmmmm...........
Well as it is you ask about Chili Sauce that stems thought of a milder topping or dip. I feel it gets it's name from the use of Chili powder used in the blend. The most well known here is the "Coney Sauce" used over Hot Dogs.
Now "Chili" is a whole different item being a thick soup meant to be eaten as a stand alone item. This is where the many recipes really conflict. Beans, No Beans, meat No meat and the whole range of peppers.
The best thing to do is make it how it pleases you and those you wish to serve. Hot and Spicy or mild, just make it you own.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 14:17:50.
Edited on 2010-07-13 at 14:18:40 by Odyson
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Shield Wolf Alpha Beard Karma: 49/2 1066 Posts
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chili
I'm with Ody on this one, I hear chili and think chili-dogs, or the "soup" he mentioned. Then again I am in Texas, and chili here is as varied as it is anywhere else if not more so.
I do know that some of the Mexican restaurants use a thin "chili sauce" for enchiladas and the like, that may be more what you are seeking, but I have no recipe for it. I know chili powder is usually key though.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 14:30:14.
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QuestorSilvanthus Regular Visitor Karma: 7/0 79 Posts
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I glance over some things...
Hmm interesting.
Looking at some of the chili places across the internets. Some are saying that chili (soup type form) was created in Texas using (initially at least) chilies from Mexico.
I also see that their is some claim that Christopher Columbus brought chilies back to Spain. And then it is rumored that Vasco Da Gama took it to India where it was then used in their dishes. The time frames seem to work out for this, but of course it is only conjecture.
Chili Sauce makes me think of a coney dog like others have said.
Chili makes me think of soup and not the pepper.
So for your questions the hotter and meatier the better! When I am done I should look like thist --->
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 14:53:41.
Edited on 2010-07-13 at 14:55:05 by QuestorSilvanthus
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Alacrity The Tired RDI Staff Karma: 291/33 6348 Posts
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chili con carne
I make chili (the stew/soup) or chili con carne all the time and I consider myself a master of that dish. It is the sauce that I am interested in.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 14:55:52.
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t_catt11 Fun is Mandatory RDI Staff Karma: 378/54 7133 Posts
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excuse me?
Master of chili? Now, good sir, I am aware that you are quite the accomplished chef, but I may have a bone to pick with that claim.
Good chili can be eaten with a fork, and causes your nose to run. Can you claim these?
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:03:38.
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QuestorSilvanthus Regular Visitor Karma: 7/0 79 Posts
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Nose to run?
Now I would have to agree that it would need to be eaten with a fork. But if the only thing running is your nose than it's not hot enough yet. That stuff should be brewing sweat from your brow and making your eyes water! Now that's chili!
As for the Chili Sauce stuff I see it a lot of times without meat. Because it usually goes on meat of some type. But I think that it should still be hot!
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:10:40.
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Alacrity The Tired RDI Staff Karma: 291/33 6348 Posts
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oh my
I usually have to make a mild batch for my family and friends but I can make you cry for more my dear friend. Come on down ....or up actually as the case may be. I don't claim that mine is the best in the world, but I have a few fans.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:10:44.
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t_catt11 Fun is Mandatory RDI Staff Karma: 378/54 7133 Posts
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sounds great!
I'd love to swap chili recipies.
Wait... I have it! The 1st annual RDI Chili and Roleplaying Convention!
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:17:08.
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QuestorSilvanthus Regular Visitor Karma: 7/0 79 Posts
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lol, let's...
Let's just not make it a two day event...
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:20:44.
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Alacrity The Tired RDI Staff Karma: 291/33 6348 Posts
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Really
Not without portapotties.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:23:23.
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Odyson PUN-dit Karma: 158/25 6327 Posts
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And a new game....
We can start a game and call it Rolling Thunder, the 4.0 Alarm edtion!
We'll need beverages too!
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:29:50.
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Alacrity The Tired RDI Staff Karma: 291/33 6348 Posts
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off topic
Moving back to chili sauce now, which doesn't really have much to do with chili con carne. Maybe I'll make a ribs and chili con carne thread later.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:32:49.
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Odyson PUN-dit Karma: 158/25 6327 Posts
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Here's one from Bobby Flay...
Here's one that looks tasty that I found on Bobby Flay's site:
Chile Sauce:
1/2 cup fresh lime juice
1/4 cup fish sauce
1 tablespoon soy sauce
1 fresh Thai red chile, finely diced
2 teaspoons sugar
1 shallot, finely diced
Combine all ingredients in a small bowl. Cover and let sit at room temperature for at least 1 hour before serving.
It was served with grilled pork.
Posted on 2010-07-13 at 16:54:06.
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