Hmm, just wondered what Rrowl would make of Vaela given that she's not descended from apes.

Anyhow, onto what I wanted to ask. Would those invited for the dinner on the Cerberus be expected to come in formal dress? I seem to recall several occasions in TNG, DS9 and Voyager when the officers dressed up for special occasions, but I'm not sure if this qualifies.

I would expect formal attire is required...but seeing as Mac ain't one for... linear protocol..mebbe some fancy duds or a dress will suffice..

I'm not sure what kzinti-andorian relations have been like, but I know that kzin-human interactions have been less than positive (WAR!!!).

Andorians are known to be agressive and warlike, so Rrowl may well dislie them far less than he does the monkeys.

As for attire - dress uniform would be expected, I would think, unless the cap'n says otherwise. *sigh*

Anyone know what Romulans are descended from? I take it the Romulans are not invited to the dinner

I think the Romulans are decendant from Vulcans if I remember correctly... hmm.. maybe one of the Star Trek Geek Squad can chime in here to confirm or deny my claim.

I know that the Romulans left the very agressive Vucans behind and settled the new worlds of Romulus and Remus.

Funny, now the Vulcans are the pacifists and the Romulans as the warriors.

Yep, Romulans are basically Vulcans who refused to accept the teachings of Surak. The weird thing I always found though is how Romulans are physically distinctive from Vulcans by having weird brow ridges. If they are basically the same race it always seemed odd to me.

Oh and as Enterprise reveals (at least the few good episodes of that series) Vulcans weren't always the hippy, peace-loving folk they are now.

Origins Some theorize that both Vulcans and Romulans are descendants of Sargon's people, who possibly colonized Vulcan some six million years ago. (TOS: "Return to Tomorrow") This theory, however, was later contradicted by the discovery of ancient humanoid progenitors. (TNG: "The Chase")

When Surak's reforms of embracing logical principles and rejecting emotions spread rapidly across Vulcan in the 4th century, a minority rejected Surak's ideals. They departed Vulcan in the 4th century; later, some of their descendants established settlements on the planets Calder II, Dessica II, Draken IV, Yadalla Prime and Barradas III, which might have become a center of this new offshoot civilization, called the Debrune, which later died out. (TNG: "Gambit, Part I")

At some point, another group settled on twin planets that became known as Romulus and Remus. While Romulus was an class M planet, Remus was a harsh planet notable only for its dilithium deposits. These two worlds were the foundation of an interstellar empire that expanded to many worlds, reaching across much of the Beta Quadrant. Eventually that power came to be known as the Romulan Star Empire. (TNG: "Gambit, Part I", "Gambit, Part II"; Star Trek Nemesis)

Physiology Like Vulcans, Romulans have pointed ears, eyebrows that are arched and upswept, and copper-based blood that is green when oxygenated in the arteries, or copper or rust-colored when deoxygenated in the veins. (Star Trek Generations) Most Romulans have two brow ridges above the bridge of their nose, forming a V-shape on the forehead. However, a minority of Romulans lack these ridges, making them outwardly indistinguishable from Vulcans.

These "browless" Romulans appear to be confined to the 23rd century, from Mark Lenard's Romulan Commander in 2266 ("Balance of Terror") through Ambassador Nanclus in 2293 (Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country).
Despite their common ancestry there are also many subtle internal physiological differences between Vulcans and Romulans. This is evidenced in Dr. Beverly Crusher's failed attempt to treat a Romulan, Patahk, who had suffered advanced synaptic breakdown, with the methods used to treat Vulcans. (TNG: "The Enemy")

Romulans lack the rigorous mental disciplines developed by the followers of Surak. They are a passionate people, easily moved to extreme emotions. (TOS: "The Enterprise Incident")

This lack of mental discipline would seem to explain why Romulans lack the telepathic abilities that Vulcans possess.
There have been numerous instances of Romulans successfully mating with other species, as evidenced in Sela (Human/Romulan), Ba'el (Klingon/Romulan), and the grandfather of Simon Tarses (Human/Romulan). General Korrd indicates in a conversation with Caithlin Dar that Romulan women may have a unique anatomical makeup, although such comments are never substantiated. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

A reference to Saavik being half-Romulan and half-Vulcan was cut from the final edit of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. It was, however, mentioned in the novelization of Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
While Vulcans possess much greater physical strength than most humanoids, it remains unknown if Romulans have superior strength to Humans.

The Terothka virus is a disease unique to Romulan physiology. Romulans are also susceptible to Tuvan Syndrome. (VOY: "Message in a Bottle"; DS9: "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges")

See also Romulan History @ Memory-Alpha.

Which post did you read?

Mac specifically told Weatherly to invite the Romulans (he doesn't like 'em, but he has learned to be 'somewhat more gracious' since his days on the Discovery. )

As far as dress code for the dinner goes: Formal dress would likely be protocol for functions such as this one - and likely what Weatherly would submit in the invite. Mac, however, isn't that particular... Wouldn't surprise me if the Captain showed up in his duty uniform.

..told you one of the Star Trek Geeks Squad would clarify things.

What color are they? All black, black and white, or what?

OOC: would have posted by now but with anyone not living in midwest we had an icestorm that left bunches of without power for better part of week

Would MACO's actually wear fatigues? Or just a modified version of a Starfleet uniform? After all essentially they're just another department on board a ship.

"Dress" Uniforms for MACO personnel would probably be identical to any other SF uniform. In the case of Cerberus and Charon, that would be the "Duty Uniforms" referred to earlier in this thread with a green undershirt (as opposed to red for Command, blue For Science, gold for TAC/SEC, ENG, and OPS, etc)...

...oooor... there's also the option of the SOB's (Special Operations Blacks) variant of the uniform. In MACO's case, this would be an all black uniform with a green band across the chest. (See the original Uniforms posting earlier in the thread for a link).

However, I do rather like the idea of "fatigues", "BDUs", or whatever you want to call them (especially for the grunts) and will allow our Jarheads to wear something along the lines of the unis depicted here. They're more or less the uniforms worn by MACO personnel in the Enterprise Series, I think, but, IMO, very cool and (possibly with a minor modification here and there to bring them 'up to date') could very well be brought into the RDInn version of the Trek Universe.

I like the idea of the fatigues. It is so Marine. Semper Fi and all that.

Fatigues are camoflague. Eol previous post has a blue word here in it a link to where you can see the fatigue uniform

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/maco/uniforms.htm