Just Post As Soon As Possible and You Will Have Plenty of Opportunities to Submit Back Posts as the Crimson Crusaders explore Botkinburg!

I was able to find a download copy of the 2nd printing of the PH. Is there a lot of difference to the 4th printing?


Tohmaz will will stay in the Halfling Community, he's an outdoorsy kind of guy.

Yes there is quite a bit of difference in the 4th printing of the C&C Players Handbook.

Especially the Barbarian is totally over hauled, the Monk is updated and the Illusionist.

Illusionist spells have been beefed up a bit and all throughout the handbook there is some tweaking.



As you can see Odysson, there are even more plot developments with the posting of BluddGrinn and Drogo and the Castle Keeper response!

I have copied your post Small Town Livin' so I can read it and then write a reply.

Yesterday I wrote the posts for BluddGrinn, Drogo and the Castle Keeper which is why they are posted now.

If I can get something written this afternoon I will either return to the internet cafe this evening or just post the reply Sunday evening for the Castle Keeper!

Wow our war Cleric and Halfling sure have requested a massive amount of stuff.

That sounds like more than two carts of stuff for the cleric alone.

I've usually found that if you can't wear it, carry it on your back or horse you usually lose it.
Are we counting arrow usage or just figuring on retrieval after battle.

All those tinder boxes, what happened to good old flint and steel, one set each should cover.
I'd say that Rhi, Tohmaz and the Half-Orc should all know how to start fires with a friction bow.

Five weeks of feed for each of the animals? If we all ride then that's more carts to carry all those sacks of grain, can't they just graze?

Tents? How about a couple of blankets and maybe a trap or two. Don't really need separate quarters, there are only 8 plus 3 so we can huddle. Also the two carts will make shelters under as long as we have them.

10 waterskins of a gallon each? Just for the
dwarve? Remember "A pint is a pound the world around!" So that 8 pounds each, 80 pounds if carrier full. If just replacements then are they needed?

How many shields do you use at a time? One really good one should last a long time, then fix it.

We will forage daily for food and water to supplement any Iron Rations we may have.

We need to think "travel light", we are not a siege army.

How about "Sacks of Holding" they are great for stuff. If there any of those then the Dwarve can carry massive amounts of stuff.

Ok, a little guidance here Keeper.

Valid Questions Odysson

These are Wagons and not Carts that are being provided. Pulled by a team of horses.

You must also take into account that the War Cleric has been fighting underground against the forces of the Horned One for nearly 100 years.

As far as the Dwarf character thinks in character, this is a Seige Army.

Remember that he has not been on the surface much in comparison to fighting underground.

There is a method to his madness and he has thought this all through before asking for the provisions.

He is also testing the dignitaries to see if they truly will provide what has been asked for, or if they will just be sent out to "twist in the wind" so to speak.

The Halfling has sided along with the Dwarf figuring he knows what he is doing.

Remember the Dwarf is a Miner first and then a young dwarf fighting for his life underground before becoming a War Cleric and there is a method to his madness.

Your character can address the dignitaries and ask for some items more in line with your reasonable thoughts that we should be travelling light as a scouting party.

Just bear with me as these 8 days progress in Botkinburg.

More illumination and understanding will come.

The Wagons are Much Larger than a donkey pull cart.

The Dwarf just wants a donkey to pull some of the load when our characters start climbing around the ridge.

Just role play your Shaman in character and see where this all leads before we leave Botkinburg and journey to The Black Tooth Ridge.

Dwarf underground most of his life and the Halfling in a
Sword Studio in the Kellerwald Forest most of his.

The Plot Thickens!

Concerning the Bolts and Arrows if you are able to retrieve any Bolts or any Arrows then you will be allowed to do so.

The Dwarf is well aware that none of the previous Crimson Crusaders have reportedly made it back to Botkinburg alive!

If the Bolts or Arrows break or go over the other side of a cliff or imbed in a foe who falls into a gorge, then probably they are not retrievable.

At least in my thinking!

Plus as I mentioned in the previous post, there is a Method to His Madness in asking for that amount of fire power from the dignitaries.

The War Cleric is already strategizing about what may be in store. [Only In Character and NOT from Me Being the Castle Keeper and Knowing What Is In Store!]

Plus he is testing if they are true to their word of giving them whatever they ask for the expedition!

I figured that the Rhiannon, Tohmaz, Karvilo and Trossach are trained as Skirmishers (being skilled with range weapons and hand to hand)and the Rogue and Bard are more street fighters.

I'll post Tohmaz's confusion as internal and have him talk to the Cleric so he can support his plan and not cause concern among the group.

Tohmaz is not a battle leader, but he is an adviser. I'll bring that out in the next post. Tohmaz can and will fight, but he knows his strength to the party is as a support to them all. Because of the ways of equal status among men and women in his clans he also is skilled in tending the camp. Their way is of "Cheerful Service to the Brotherhood" and Tohmaz has now determined these Crusaders to be his clan.

I have to think of the medical, spell and food supplies the group needs as will as personal items.

..... are much appreciated and add to my creativity for the plot of the game!

It is going to take me a couple of days to write up the next post for when we arrive at The Chancel, so everyone still has some time to post their Back Story info or whatever.

I am done writing for Drogo and BluddGrinn until they get to The Chancel, unless what Odysson posts spurs me to write something for BluddGrinn.

Yesterday I came up with a couple of things to add to the adventure, so I have to write up something for the Rogue and the Bard when we arrive at The Chancel.

They will be deciphering some foreign script that will be of interest to our adventure!

Just stopped by the internet cafe to update some reports, answer Emails and generally browse.

Have copied and pasted your Posts in The Crimson Crusaders and will update accordingly.

May take a couple extra days to write up The Chancel as there are some interesting developments taking shape!

Looking forward to the rest of the gang posting!

..... for posting the group going to The Chancel, so if anyone has any more posting to do prior to arriving at The Chancel then I suggest you do so!

I'll get something down soon.

I've been a bit busy, I start a new job with a new company on the 13th.

I haven't been very creative the past few days as I've been wrapping up things at my current job.
When I get home I've just been mentally fried.

But I got some ideas and need to find some support information. Putting together a shopping list.

I feel the Tohmaz will oversee the drivers and probaly the supplies for the meals.

I would like start making a Shaman's pouch for each Crusader and I need to find the materials and how long each will take. A reasonalbe degree of effort goes into each to have them caring the magic they bring to the receipient.

Forgive me as well I have had a filthy cold that is keeping me in bed--too much and I just lent my laptop to a friend who was in desperate need since his power supply blew. Otherwise I would post from bed. But I am lift with my big desktop for now. Just means getting up and getting to it.

Odyson I will bet doing that ceremony with you so if you want to post what Rhiannon does to take part in it in general terms in you post and can post what I need in more specific details and such,.

Ody was that ceremony later that day or the next day?

Bri I sent you information a PM to go along with my post.

I hope you're feeling better soon. You don't need to be feeling crummy for the holidays.

Does Tohmaz need to come out to California and try some healing on you there???????????

As you can see the adventure is moving right along, so just back post when you can!

There are plenty of opportunities!

I have posted Crimson Crusaders at The Chancel and some other posts by BluddGrinn, Drogo and Castle Keeper.

Today I wrote Crimson Crusaders at The House of D'Amter, but I will wait a couple days before posting that one!

I will post the Map and Areas here in the QnA to refresh everyone as to where we are on the map!